Episode 067: Joker: An In Depth Character Analysis

This episode of the "Psychiatry and Psychotherapy" podcast is about the Joker, the film, character analysis, psychoanalysis and cultural analysis with my colleague Hans-Walter Field, MD.

David Pader, MD, Hans Field-Walter, MD

There are no conflicts of interest in this episode.

My Reflections On The Movie

As a psychiatrist, psychoanalyst and someone interested in human suffering, I felt a mixture of nausea, disgust, dismay and pleasure while watching the film. The cinema was making me sick in the head. The black lighting, the gloomy sky, the filthy enclosure without a horizon, the restless music. I'm sure these notes will help me understand this film more than any other. The film left me excited and frustrated, and perhaps you, reading this, have a similar impression and become curious about the diagnosis.

A friend told me: 'If a film makes you feel something, it's not bad or evil, it's an arrangement of your own work. The point is not whether he likes you for it, but whether it was possible to force you not to trust what a certain person is, or whether these people really flowed for it. And Joaquin Phoenix's Joker was defeated in this task. He was incredible. The difficulty of this plot, and the amount of baggage I'm about to tell you about, to some extent, are what conditioned this movie to become the most profitable comic book movie of all time.

I REALLY THINK THE MOST INTERESTING PART OF THE FILM, IS THE EMPATHY THEY ARE ABLE TO GENERATE IN THE AUDIENCE.

Perhaps the audience begins to empathize when we are shown a character to whom we want to pledge our loyalty. The Joker clearly showed empathy. His kindness towards his mother - giving her a bath, saying hello when he got home - seemed like an attempt by him, an immature, young boy, to express his mother's kindness. Moreover, when he smiled at the baby on the bus, we noticed his human side, his desire to get to know others. He mourned his coworker Gary and seemed sorry that the other clowns giggled at him. As for young Bruce, he showed humor and desire. Thinking of the boys who beat him up, he said: All of these instances help to foster our pity for him, and give us reason to continue to root for his character even as he begins to commit monstrous acts of violence.

He says that the worst in mental illness is to be expected to behave as if he was not sick, "he said, but this would be possible for anyone who had a mental illness. He has a part that needs deep sympathy, but at the same time, his moral conclusions are related to mental illness, but rather related to elections-especially his ruthless murder.

JOKER DEMONSTRATED A DEEP DESIRE FOR EMPATHY AND CONNECTION, SOMETHING THAT AS AN AUDIENCE MEMBER, I FELT A DESIRE TO GIVE HIM.

When the boss asked why he had darkened the sign, he answered: I got into a thief. He was an influential person, did not see him, did not know him, and as a result he believed in the worst. I wanted to fight and protect it.

He told the social worker. "No one listens to me and only asks the same questions." The therapist replied: They have to do something. " He wanted to hear, understand and sympathize. He wanted to know if anyone had witnessed his suffering.

He said the founder, Wayne, just wanted warmth. At the main talk show, he asked for a hug instead of ridiculing his health, and he saw a hallucination, "I want a child like you." In the delusion of his neighbor, he wished for his back massage while his mother was hospitalized.

The first two murders were legitimate defense. When a trio of the subway provokes a girl in the bus, we control her sympathy and the emotions of anger at them. Later, when they started hitting the joker and the joker fired a gun, we experienced a legitimate defense. After this, the situation changes from thorough humiliation to anger to anger. He shoots a third man who escapes.

The Murders

After a few sorrowful scenes that knew his mother lying to himself and unimaginable, he knew his past (in the movie theater, ignoring Hippa protection). Kill the mother. There was a comment on the Internet that it would have been prepared to release his mother from suffering, but in fact it seems that it is an altruistic act rather than a simple murder. Former colleagues clown, kill randals. Randal laughed at himself and lied to his boss. Later, he talked about his health on television and killed Malay Franklin.

As the movie progresses, the concept of classical good and evil begins to become ambiguous, and insights are gained on their understanding and the conditions of murder anger. < SPAN> The worst in mental illness is that he is expected to behave as if he was not sick, "he said, but this would be possible for anyone who had a mental illness. He has a part that needs deep sympathy, but at the same time, his moral conclusions are related to mental illness, but rather related to elections-especially his ruthless murder.

When the boss asked why he had darkened the sign, he answered: I got into a thief. He was an influential person, did not see him, did not know him, and as a result he believed in the worst. I wanted to fight and protect it.

Did Joker Have A Medical Diagnosis?

JOKER’S LAUGHING DISEASE.

He told the social worker. "No one listens to me and only asks the same questions." The therapist replied: They have to do something. " He wanted to hear, understand and sympathize. He wanted to know if anyone had witnessed his suffering.

He said the founder, Wayne, just wanted warmth. At the main talk show, he asked for a hug instead of ridiculing his health, and he saw a hallucination, "I want a child like you." In the delusion of his neighbor, he wished for his back massage while his mother was hospitalized.

HE HAD A CLEAR HISTORY OF A TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY

The first two murders were legitimate defense. When a trio of the subway provokes a girl in the bus, we control her sympathy and the emotions of anger at them. Later, when they started hitting the joker and the joker fired a gun, we experienced a legitimate defense. After this, the situation changes from thorough humiliation to anger to anger. He shoots a third man who escapes.

What Types Of Psychiatric Issues Did Joker Have Or Not Have?

After a few sorrowful scenes that knew his mother lying to himself and unimaginable, he knew his past (in the movie theater, ignoring Hippa protection). Kill the mother. There was a comment on the Internet that it would have been prepared to release his mother from suffering, but in fact it seems that it is an altruistic act rather than a simple murder. Former colleagues clown, kill randals. Randal laughed at himself and lied to his boss. Later, he talked about his health on television and killed Malay Franklin.

HOW DID JOKER’S CHILDHOOD TRAUMA INFLUENCE HIS BEHAVIOR?

As the movie progresses, the concept of classical good and evil begins to become ambiguous, and insights are gained on their understanding and the conditions of murder anger. He says that the worst in mental illness is to be expected to behave as if he was not sick, "he said, but this would be possible for anyone who had a mental illness. He has a part that needs deep sympathy, but at the same time, his moral conclusions are related to mental illness, but rather related to elections-especially his ruthless murder.

When the boss asked why he had darkened the sign, he answered: I got into a thief. He was an influential person, did not see him, did not know him, and as a result he believed in the worst. I wanted to fight and protect it.

Did Joker Have A Psychiatric Diagnosis?

DID JOKER HAVE HIGH FUNCTIONING ASPERGER’S OR AUTISM?

He told the social worker. "No one listens to me and only asks the same questions." The therapist replied: They have to do something. " He wanted to hear, understand and sympathize. He wanted to know if anyone had witnessed his suffering.

JOKER DESCRIBED CHRONIC DEPRESSION

He said the founder, Wayne, just wanted warmth. At the main talk show, he asked for a hug instead of ridiculing his health, and he saw a hallucination, "I want a child like you." In the delusion of his neighbor, he wished for his back massage while his mother was hospitalized.

The first two murders were legitimate defense. When a trio of the subway provokes a girl in the bus, we control her sympathy and the emotions of anger at them. Later, when they started hitting the joker and the joker fired a gun, we experienced a legitimate defense. After this, the situation changes from thorough humiliation to anger to anger. He shoots a third man who escapes.

WHAT WERE JOKER’S PSYCHOTIC DELUSIONS?

After a few sorrowful scenes that knew his mother lying to himself and unimaginable, he knew his past (in the movie theater, ignoring Hippa protection). Kill the mother. There was a comment on the Internet that it would have been prepared to release his mother from suffering, but in fact it seems that it is an altruistic act rather than a simple murder. Former colleagues clown, kill randals. Randal laughed at himself and lied to his boss. Later, he talked about his health on television and killed Malay Franklin.

As the movie progresses, the concept of classical good and evil begins to become ambiguous, and insights are gained on their understanding and the conditions of murder anger.

Arthur Frek was diagnosed as "pseud o-ball paralysis." In the United States alone, 1. 5 million to 2 million are suffering from the symptoms. When he laughed, there was always a sorrow and pain behind it. In addition, this diagnosis causes many stigma.

I have seen many clients with pseud o-paralysis due to traumatic brain injury. One of them laughed at an inappropriate time (for example, in a physiological collision with the opponent), so he was very unpopular. The movie scene attacked by smiling is not far away. Similar incidents in TBI are easy to understand (BROOKS, 2013). If the joker (as the movie claimed) was caused by traumatic brain injury, it would have been a serious injury that was absolutely necessary to impair neurological functions. 。

Arthur carried a card stating that there was a history of traumatic brain injury, in order to inform the surroundings that it was pseud o-ball paralysis. Initially, Arthur Frek was almost a chil d-like heart, his life was disturbed, and the IQ was less than average. He used ordinary words. His sketchbook was messy and childish. Trauma brain injury can cause depression, anger, a loss of cognitive function, and a pseud o-ball paralysis, and there is no doubt that traumatic brain injury continues to affect his psychological state.

The film has succeeded in not treating violent ending as due to psychiatric effects. Film and politicians often make mistakes in psychiatric issues as actually encouraging violence. Only 5 % of the violence in the United States caused by mental illness (STUART, 2003). At the mental level, sick people are more likely to be violent victims than those who perform violence.

DID JOKER HAVE HAD SCHIZOPHRENIA OR SCHIZOAFFECTIVE DISORDER?

He performed a trauma as a child, and continued to have trauma because of his life. < SPAN> Arthur Frek was diagnosed as "pseud o-ball paralysis." In the United States alone, 1. 5 million to 2 million are suffering from the symptoms. When he laughed, there was always a sorrow and pain behind it. In addition, this diagnosis causes many stigma.

I have seen many clients with pseud o-paralysis due to traumatic brain injury. One of them laughed at an inappropriate time (for example, in a physiological collision with the opponent), so he was very unpopular. The movie scene attacked by smiling is not far away. Similar incidents in TBI are easy to understand (BROOKS, 2013). If the joker (as the movie claimed) was caused by traumatic brain injury, it would have been a serious injury that was absolutely necessary to impair neurological functions. 。

Arthur carried a card stating that there was a history of traumatic brain injury, in order to inform the surroundings that it was pseud o-ball paralysis. Initially, Arthur Frek was almost a chil d-like heart, his life was disturbed, and the IQ was less than average. He used ordinary words. His sketchbook was messy and childish. There is no doubt that traumatic brain injury can cause depression, anger, a loss of cognitive function, and a pseud o-ball paralysis, and traumatic brain injury continues to affect his psychological state.

DID JOKER HAVE BIPOLAR MOOD DISORDER?

The film has succeeded in treating violent ending as the effects of psychiatry. Frequently, films and politicians make mistakes in psychiatric issues as actually encouraging violence. Only 5 % of the violence in the United States caused by mental illness (STUART, 2003). At the mental level, sick people are more likely to be violent victims than those who perform violence.

Did Joker Have A Forensic (Non-Psychiatric Diagnosis?)

He performed a trauma as a child, and continued to have trauma because of his life. Arthur Frek was diagnosed as "pseud o-ball paralysis." In the United States alone, 1. 5 million to 2 million are suffering from the symptoms. When he laughed, there was always a sorrow and pain behind it. In addition, this diagnosis causes many stigma.

WAS JOKER A PSYCHOPATH?

I have seen many clients with pseud o-paralysis due to traumatic brain injury. One of them laughed at an inappropriate time (for example, in a physiological collision with the opponent), so he was very unpopular. The movie scene attacked by smiling is not far away. Similar incidents in TBI are easy to understand (BROOKS, 2013). If the joker (as the movie claimed) was caused by traumatic brain injury, it would have been a serious injury that was absolutely necessary to impair neurological functions. 。

• Arthur carried a card stating that there was a history of traumatic brain injury, in order to inform the surroundings that it was pseud o-ball paralysis. Initially, Arthur Frek was almost a chil d-like heart, his life was disturbed, and the IQ was less than average. He used ordinary words. His sketchbook was messy and childish. Trauma brain injury can cause depression, anger, a loss of cognitive function, and a pseud o-ball paralysis, and there is no doubt that traumatic brain injury continues to affect his psychological state.
• The film has succeeded in not treating violent ending as due to psychiatric effects. Film and politicians often make mistakes in psychiatric issues as actually encouraging violence. Only 5 % of the violence in the United States caused by mental illness (STUART, 2003). At the mental level, sick people are more likely to be violent victims than those who perform violence.
• He performed a trauma as a child, and continued to have trauma because of his life.
• As an example, he actually took a mother's bath, and in another example, he was actually a c o-author of his mother's story (checking his mother's letter). When he was hurt, he obviously, he was ally for his perpetrator (mother), the mother despised themselves and ridiculed himself. In return, he thought that it would be more useful to be near her and care for and worry about her. His anger, insult, and sadness deepened from his inside. If you are injured when you are young, it often does not look at the story or the appearance of something, and it is remembered as a small and most important thing. In the process of the appeal, his anger was to the inner one that appeared on himself, who appeared in the appearance of depression, to an external thing that reached a murderous anger when he killed his mother. Reborn.

Person with hig h-performance autism, which had previously been called Asperger's syndrome, has no cognitive sympathy but emotional sympathy. Like a joker, they are not very good at interacting with people in public. People with hig h-performance autism still have a limited range of interest. As a result of a strong desire for social connections, the joker was not autistic (most of his imagination was related to communication with others). Apart from this, humans and Asperger's cruelty remain the same, and is often made by violence victims.

Arthur Frek said, "I only have a negative idea," "The most scary of the existence of psychological diseases is that people are actually not. Expect you to take action, "he said.

Chronic, relentless depression is sometimes called indefinite complaints. The characteristics of depression include a decrease in conspiracy, lack of sleep, sometimes unreasonable guilt, reduced energy, decreasing concentration, strength of hunger, and desire for suicide. People with acquired injuries, borderline personality disorders, and past traumatic brain damage may be found to be acquired and difficult to cure. He has actually been injured in his head, has been injured in his childhood, and has joined the mechanics of his mother, and has become an acquired depression. However, depression patients are not more cruel than the general public.

WAS JOKER A SOCIOPATH?

The characteristic of the joker is the desire to be needed and want to be involved with the stakeholders. For example, in the imagination of participating in the show, he showed his desire to be embraced by his father's arm and declared, "I wish I had a son like you." Also, when she delusional about dating with an ensemble woman in her residential ward, she was in a comedy club, laughed at his joke, and was worried about her mother's infarction.

WAS JOKER RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS ACTIONS? YES!

The film is drawn into a joke r-related joke r-related joker, and asks that at the end of the people, but not.

For example, was he actually having a huge hallucinations that he liked, or was it true? His erotic absurdism that his neighbor was in love with him seemed to collapse when he later entered her living space.

HIS VIOLENCE HAD MORE TO DO WITH HIS NARRATIVE, THE BELIEFS HE HAD ABOUT HIS LIFE AND HOW OTHERS VIOLATED HIM.

Psychiatric hallucinations will be improved for the first time a few months after taking antipsychotics. Delusion also includes an incident about the person who possesses him (Paranoia is the most famous nonsense). Does the fact that the police was fake mean that it was actually nonsense?

ATTENTION

All we know is that Arthur Frek understood that the absurdity was not reality. It was a strong pain when a woman in a living space realized that she was not a comforting person, but not a person who liked himself.

THIS MOVIE’S STORY IS ALSO RESONATING WITH LARGER CULTURAL NARRATIVES AND EXPERIENCES.

One of the things I teach to a psychiatric patient is to infer the meaning of mental illness. The value of Arthur Flex (and if he was my patient, what I sympathize with him) was a desire to own the founder, association, fun, dedication, and meaning. 。 This is what we are watching, not just Arthur Frek, but also watching his life and immersed in it. If you are lonely, isolated, and strive to communicate, it's a person.

Usually, mental control is considered to be a greater hallucination of pseudo and aggressive expressions, but he also shows more aggressive imagination and absurdity, showing that he is attracted to power and personal connections. 。 A psychiatric schizophrenia patient hears this luggage, "You are stupid," "You are gay." Sometimes patients believe they are conscious of Satan, Maria (the mother of God), and Jesus. These hallucinations protect patients from the urgent reality of homeless.

It is difficult to find out where the movie was. In fact, it is known that he was taking the medicine, but at some point the funding was discontinued and the substance had to end. It is even tragic that people who need most of the support often do not have that means.

Finally, patients with schizophrenia are usually created by violence victims, not created by the perpetrators.

A DEVELOPING CULT CLASSIC

Arthur Fleck's speech rate and bombast increased for several months, without any mood elevation. He was insomniac (remember the scene where he goes into the refrigerator) and his mood remained rather gloomy. The logic and reasons for his actions, while irrational, may have had their own internal logic depending on the observer. For example, a manic patient may doze off for two hours a day and have the capacity to take massive action during sleep deprivation. He showed behavioral changes, but in those behaviors he was depressed every time he approached distress, and his need for meaning was acquired and not gradually changed.

Antisocial personality disorder, psychopathy, and sociopathy are rarely treated by psychiatrists. There are no medications for them, and the majority of people with the disorder are not interested in help. If they do turn to a psychiatrist, it is usually because they want to get something from the psychiatrist, such as opioids or Xanax.

Psychopathy is categorized as follows:

Lack of attachment, empathy, fear

Calculated predatory hostility (strategic planning, primary action towards violence)

A MESSAGE TO THE JOKERS OUT THERE:

Ruthlessness

A flagrant disregard for driving privileges and the welfare of others.

Affects 2% of the male population and 1% of the female population. Depending on the surrounding environment and one's choices, one could become a drug lord or a hitman, or a prosocial one, such as a bomb diffusor or test pilot or a high-ranking military officer. In fact, he felt empathy in the same way, but he also did not express guilt. I don't think he lacked compassion. Incidentally, he craved human connection more than anything in the world, but he also distanced himself from it, perhaps due to his severe depression, pseudobulbar myelitis, traumatic brain injury, and inaccessibility to social skills. As a rule, psychopaths have a long history of harming animals and treating humans as inhuman objects that can be used to fulfill personal desires. Interestingly, in the case of the Joker, this was not the case.

Psychopath Quotes: "I just love to kill. I experience the last breath from the corpse. I look into their eyes. The men in these stories are gods."

1. One of the symptoms of a psychopath was his inability to experience guilt after murder. Apart from that, he seemed to go along with what people actually find funny without considering it. In fact, I think both may be the result of SBI rather than traditional psychopath.
2. Social illness generally "incorporates" ant i-social. Severe treatment and trauma are likely to affect the ability to form a bond with others in subsequent life. They have higher levels of anxiety, more border symptoms, and more mental disorders. Social illness tends to do "bad things" from a young age, but it is interesting that Joker committed crime in the latter half of his life.
3. In fact, I believe he had no brain damage, developmental trauma, or mental illness that deprived the human abilities of moral choice. Why? He enjoyed working in the legal profession for many periods of life. Later, after committing a crime (unusual for psychopaths and Sociopas), he decided to be on his intelligence. His story was justified his forced pressure.
4. Every human being may commit atrocities that reduce other human rights and humanity. Some face the shadow of humanity, but not all can be overcome. For millions of years, we have genetically prepared for survival and power pressure. For more than 10, 000 years, we were a member of the tribe, killing a member of the tribe means expulsion, and killing a stranger was necessary for survival.

I have spoken to those who commit crimes for three or five years while at the medical school for three or five years, but they tend to think that their actions are justified in some way. There is. However, the potential of the movie will show a new, proposed reality that draws you by his sympathy for his catastrophic life.

A MESSAGE ABOUT FOLLOWING JOKER’S NARRATIVE:

After killing the three rich, he says: "Everyone finally came to see me." "I didn't have any doubts about being alive, but everyone started to notice." What else is he actually says, "The officials are not looking at him." She lacked his compassion for his special world. The brute force pressure was a way for him to experience himself as a ghost and to be interested in the world where he walked. He played a clown to draw interest in himself and wanted to be a cabaret entertainer to draw interest in himself. He loved being loved and enthusiastic. The concern became a positive feed buck loop and continued to take the path to violence. < SPAN> Social illness generally "incorporates antisocial" to themselves. Severe treatment and trauma are likely to affect the ability to form a bond with others in subsequent life. They have higher levels of anxiety, more border symptoms, and more mental disorders. Social illness tends to do "bad things" from a young age, but it is interesting that Joker committed crime in the latter half of his life.

In fact, I believe he had no brain damage, developmental trauma, or mental illness that deprived the human abilities of moral choice. Why? He enjoyed working in the legal profession for many periods of life. Later, after committing a crime (unusual for psychopaths and Sociopas), he decided to be on his intelligence. His story was justified his forced pressure.

Every human being may commit atrocities that reduce other human rights and humanity. Some face the shadow of humanity, but not all can be overcome. For millions of years, we have genetically prepared for survival and power pressure. For more than 10, 000 years, we were a member of the tribe, killing a member of the tribe means expulsion, and killing a stranger was necessary for survival.

I have spoken to those who commit crimes for three or five years while at the medical school for three or five years, but they tend to think that their actions are justified in some way. There is. However, the potential of the movie will show a new, proposed reality that draws you by his sympathy for his catastrophic life.

In Conclusion

After killing the three rich, he says: "Everyone finally came to see me." "I didn't have any doubts about being alive, but everyone started to notice." What else is he actually says, "The officials are not looking at him." She lacked his compassion for his special world. The brute force pressure was a way for him to experience himself as a ghost and to be interested in the world where he walked. He played a clown to draw interest in himself and wanted to be a cabaret entertainer to draw interest in himself. He loved being loved and enthusiastic. The concern became a positive feed buck loop and continued to take the path to violence. Social illness generally "incorporates" ant i-social. Severe treatment and trauma are likely to affect the ability to form a bond with others in subsequent life. They have higher levels of anxiety, more border symptoms, and more mental disorders. Social illness tends to do "bad things" from a young age, but it is interesting that Joker committed crime in the latter half of his life.

In fact, I believe he had no brain damage, developmental trauma, or mental illness that deprived the human abilities of moral choice. Why? He enjoyed working in the legal profession for many periods of life. Later, after committing a crime (unusual for psychopaths and Sociopas), he decided to be on his intelligence. His story was justified his forced pressure.

Every human being may commit atrocities that reduce other human rights and humanity. Some face the shadow of humanity, but not all can be overcome. For millions of years, we have genetically prepared for survival and power pressure. For more than 10, 000 years, we were a member of the tribe, killing a member of the tribe means expulsion, and killing a stranger was necessary for survival.

I have spoken to those who commit crimes for three or five years while at the medical school for three or five years, but they tend to think that their actions are justified in some way. There is. However, the potential of the movie will show a new, proposed reality that draws you by his sympathy for his catastrophic life.

After killing the three rich, he says: "Everyone finally came to see me." "I didn't have any doubts about being alive, but everyone started to notice." What else is he actually says, "The officials are not looking at him." She lacked his compassion for his special world. The brute force pressure was a way for him to experience himself as a ghost and to be interested in the world where he walked. He played a clown to draw interest in himself and wanted to be a cabaret entertainer to draw interest in himself. He loved being loved and enthusiastic. The concern became a positive feed buck loop and continued to take the path to violence.

We are a civilization where global executions occur. This is unique to our time, technology, access, and motivation. If you have ever felt hidden in our society, like a ghost, unable to connect or empathize with others, or harboring deep anger at the vicious trauma others have inflicted on you, this film will probably resonate with you on a deeper level.

The film also touches upon the very essence of the polarization of the rich and the unfortunate, the haves and the have-nots. The film presents the Joker's conclusion. It is undoubtedly comprised of violence, but it also shows a lack of resources, and may point to a secret conclusion that some people are unaware of.

We are a very tribal existence, a people who associate in tight-knit societies with around 50 other people. Loneliness has increased exponentially in the last decade. People don't know each other as much as they used to. Social media paints an inaccurate picture of the beautiful lives of many people. People have every opportunity to look perfect, but we know that most photos are heavily photoshopped. As a result, jealousy, contempt, and loneliness are at their peak, even without paying attention to all the gifts that technology offers.